Legislature(1997 - 1998)

03/03/1998 01:45 PM House FIN

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HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 44                                                  
                                                                               
Proposing amendments to the Constitution of the State                          
of Alaska relating to redistricting of the legislature.                        
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault provided members with a proposed                           
committee substitute for HJR 44, Work Draft 0-LS0528\I,                        
dated 3/3/98 (copy on file).  Representative Mulder MOVED to                   
ADOPT , Work Draft 0-LS0528\I, dated 3/3/98.  There being NO                   
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                  
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE BRIAN PORTER, SPONSOR, testified in support                     
of HJR 44.  He explained that the legislation would change                     
the method of appointment to the reapportionment board.  The                   
legislation would codify single member districts for the                       
House and Senate.  The Alaska Supreme Court has indicated                      
its support for single member districts.  The Governor                         
currently appoints the reapportionment board.  He noted that                   
only one other state involves their governor in the                            
appointment of their reapportionment board.  Under the                         
legislation the chief supreme court justice would appoint                      
the reapportionment board.  He maintained that the current                     
process is partisan.  He discussed the 1992 reapportionment                    
process. Due to litigation a superior court judge appointed                    
a couple of masters to redraw the 1992 reapportionment plan.                   
The court plan was rejected at the federal level.  It was                      
subsequently readjusted.                                                       
                                                                               
Representative Porter stated that the Supreme Court has                        
requested that page 3, line 3 be amended by deleting                           
"subject to the provisions of this section" and inserting as                   
provided by law".  He observed that the legislature might                      
want to provide criteria for how the appointments should be                    
made.  He asserted that at least one person should be                          
appointed from each of the judicial districts to guarantee                     
geographical representation.                                                   
                                                                               
In response to a question by Representative Grussendorf,                       
Representative Porter observed that if the plan were                           
challenged in federal court, it would be appealed in federal                   
court.  If an Alaskan citizen challenged the plan, it would                    
be brought before the Alaska Superior Court.  He thought                       
that the chief justice would have to remove himself if it                      
were appealed to the Supreme Court.                                            
                                                                               
In response to comments by Representative Grussendorf,                         
Representative Porter observed that interest in the issue                      
would be greater as the event becomes closer.  He stated                       
that the intent is to be objective and to get partisan                         
politics out of the process.  He observed that the Supreme                     
Court appoints the Ethics Committee.                                           
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault clarified that subsection (c) on page 3                    
was included in the previous version.                                          
                                                                               
Representative Davies stressed that the legislation would be                   
more prospective if it were to apply after the next                            
election.                                                                      
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault noted that the legislation's effective                     
date is 2002.                                                                  
                                                                               
Representative Porter emphasized that the intent is to make                    
the next reapportionment non-partisan.                                         
                                                                               
Representative Davies stated that the change could effect an                   
individual's decision to run for office.                                       
                                                                               
Representative Martin asserted that any plan would be                          
accused of being partisan.  He stressed that an attempt to                     
balance partisan interests can be made.  He expressed                          
concern with the criteria of "integrated socio-economic"                       
areas.  He gave examples of redistricting plans where he                       
felt that the criteria for a integrated socio-economic area                    
were misused.  He observed the difficulty of integrating                       
cultural groups in the State.  He pointed out that                             
population has not grown as fast in some areas of the State                    
as in others.  He suggested that it would be difficult to                      
maintain socio-economic integration of areas.                                  
                                                                               
Representative Porter spoke in support of retaining the                        
criteria of socio-economic integration.  He stressed that                      
this provision is intended to provide fair representation                      
for the State's minority population.  He noted that the                        
United States Supreme court ruled in favor of one man one                      
vote.  States are generally allowed a variance in population                   
between districts of 1 to 1.5 percent.  He observed that the                   
Alaska Supreme Court has allowed population variances of up                    
to 10 percent.  He acknowledged that the plan would not stop                   
litigation.  He asserted that there would not be a                             
presumption of the partisan politics if the board is                           
appointed through the court.  He observed that the court                       
will be able to use case law that has been developed over                      
the years.  He discussed the 1992 reapportionment process.                     
                                                                               
Representative Martin asserted that the Justice Department                     
and the Alaska Supreme Court are polarized.  The US Supreme                    
Court has emphasized one man one vote for equal                                
representation.                                                                
                                                                               
(Tape Change, HFC 98 -50, Side 1)                                              
                                                                               
In response to comments by Representative Martin,                              
Representative Porter observed that the legislation would                      
shorten the process by 90 days.  He reviewed the                               
reapportionment process timeline.  He discussed page 5, line                   
21.  If any litigation or interruption of the process occurs                   
to the extent that the up coming election is affected then                     
the prior reapportionment plan would be used.                                  
                                                                               
Representative Martin reiterated concerns regarding the use                    
of the chief justice of the Supreme Court.                                     
                                                                               
Representative Mulder noted that a potential conflict of one                   
judge does not mean that the court cannot make a decision.                     
If a justice felt that they had a conflict, he or she, could                   
excuse themselves.                                                             
                                                                               
Representative Porter agreed and added that the same                           
situation occurs with the appointment of the Ethics Board.                     
                                                                               
Representative Martin maintained that the court should be                      
kept as pure as possible.  He noted that a tie decision                        
could occur if one justice is removed.                                         
                                                                               
In response to a question by Representative Grussendorf,                       
Representative Porter asserted that he would support the                       
legislation regardless of the gubernatorial candidates.                        
                                                                               
Representative Grussendorf did not think that "socio-                          
economic" should be removed.                                                   
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault pointed out that the legislation has                       
been changed by the committee substitute.                                      
                                                                               
Representative Davies stated that the chief justice has the                    
mantel of impartiality.  He maintained that the legislation                    
might have unintended consequences.  He expressed concern                      
that judges would be subjected to a litmus test.  He felt                      
that judges could be put in the position of standing against                   
a recall election if reapportionment does not satisfy                          
everyone.  He observed that the Ethics Board is a judicial                     
function.  The legislation asks the court to be involved in                    
a legislative issue.                                                           
                                                                               
Representative Grussendorf noted that there has been                           
discussion regarding legislative approval or the election of                   
judges.                                                                        
                                                                               
Representative Porter pointed out that the other justices                      
select the chief justice.  He noted that all judges have                       
their personal notions.  The challenge is to make judgements                   
based on the law.  He stated that he would be opposed to the                   
election of judges.                                                            
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault clarified that the intent of the                           
proposed change to page 3, line 3 is to allow the                              
legislature to add through statute further restrictions to                     
the appointment of the redistricting board.  He stated that                    
the legislature might want to require that members live in                     
an area a certain length of time of be a state resident for                    
a certain amount of time.                                                      
                                                                               
Representative Porter suggested the use of "may be amplified                   
through law".  He observed that the intent is to minimize                      
unnecessary language in the Constitution.  He emphasized                       
that the Constitution is automatically superior to statute.                    
Statutes can only amplify the Constitution.                                    
                                                                               
JAMES BALDWIN, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL, DEPARTMENT OF LAW                   
discussed the committee substitute.  He spoke in support of                    
allowing the Court to do military surveys.  He observed that                   
over 9,000 of the people who applied for permanent fund                        
dividends were active duty military.  He noted that there                      
are a number of nonresident military residing in districts                     
that could affect redistricting.                                               
                                                                               
Mr. Baldwin clarified that the intent of the legislation is                    
that "two contiguous" house districts could pertain to                         
districts that are contiguous across waters.                                   
                                                                               
Mr. Baldwin discussed the proposed amendment to page 3, line                   
3.  He expressed concern that a substantial portion of the                     
constitutional amendment before the voters would yet to be                     
enacted by law.  He pointed out that partisan criteria could                   
be enacted through statute.                                                    
                                                                               
Mr. Baldwin observed that a member of the board couldn't run                   
for office.  He assumed that the State would have to show a                    
compelling state interest to justify this discrimination.                      
                                                                               
Mr. Baldwin discussed the current reapportionment process.                     
He noted that, under the current provision, an officer of                      
the Governor could make adjustments to the reapportionment                     
plan proposed by the Board.  He asserted that the                              
legislation does not provide a non-judicial "safety valve".                    
He observed that a statewide elected official that is                          
answerable to the public would not make the appointments.                      
                                                                               
Mr. Baldwin reiterated that language on page 5, lines 21 -                     
24 is a direct incentive for litigation.  He stressed that a                   
new plan would at least provide for one-person one vote.                       
Operation of the old plan would perpetuate a mal-apportioned                   
state for another two years.  He stated that the                               
Administration does not support the legislation.                               
                                                                               
Representative Martin disagreed with the proposal to allow                     
the Board to do a military census.  He noted that the next                     
census would count those on base.  The US Supreme Court has                    
upheld counting of military personnel.                                         
                                                                               
In response to a question by Representative Davies, Mr.                        
Baldwin stated that the language regarding military census                     
taking is ambiguous.  He acknowledged that the discussion in                   
the House Judiciary Committee placed on the record that the                    
intention is that the language would not allow the taking of                   
a military census.  He observed that the intent is to remove                   
individuals that do not vote in Alaska.  He noted that the                     
military population is concentrated in urban areas of the                      
State.  He observed that there would be more representatives                   
for urban areas of the State.  He asserted that the section                    
creates a voting rights issue.  He noted that the                              
Department's fiscal note is in response to this issue.  If                     
the military population is removed there is a smaller ideal                    
number per district.  He asserted that if military personnel                   
are counted there will be a heavier representation in                          
Fairbanks and Anchorage made up of people who don't vote.                      
                                                                               
Representative Davies observed that the current provision                      
does not allow public officials or employees to be members                     
of the Board.  Mr. Baldwin clarified that this prohibition                     
pertains to state, federal and municipal employees.  He                        
observed that the intent is that recommendations not be made                   
by anyone with a stake in the process.                                         
                                                                               
Mr. Baldwin expressed concern with the removal of "shall be                    
made without regard to political affiliation.                                  
                                                                               
CHRIS CHRISTENSEN, GENERAL COUNSEL, ALASKA COURT SYSTEM                        
discussed the legislation.  He observed that the Court has                     
concern with section 8 on page 3.  He emphasized that the                      
people need to believe that the justice system is fair and                     
impartial and that it produces a just result.  He noted that                   
the framers of the Constitution created a unique judicial                      
system.  He observed that the system was created to be free                    
from the influence of partisan politics.  The Supreme Court                    
is concerned that section 8 will involve the Court in                          
partisan politics.                                                             
                                                                               
(Tape Change, HFC 98 - 50, Side 2)                                             
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault pointed out that the Court has been                        
involved in the current process.  Mr. Christensen                              
acknowledged that the Supreme Court is the final arbiter of                    
legal matters.  When the Court is called to review political                   
matters it is acting judicially to settle a case.  He                          
maintained that the appointment process is a different case.                   
                                                                               
In response to a question by Co-Chair Therriault, Mr.                          
Christensen observed that judges frequently appoint masters                    
to look at and evaluate evidence and make recommendations.                     
The master is serving as the judge's agent in evaluating                       
evidence and looking at a case.  He emphasized that this                       
process is different than the process of appointing a                          
reapportionment board.                                                         
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault noted that a judge would refrain from                      
discussing subjects that they would be asked to adjudicate.                    
                                                                               
Mr. Christensen pointed out that the appearance of                             
impropriety is as important as actual impropriety.                             
                                                                               
Representative Davies noted that masters tend to follow the                    
basic pattern set out by the underlying reapportionment plan                   
and make the minimum changes necessary to bring the plan                       
into compliance.                                                               
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault asked if a board appointed by the                          
judiciary made a recommendation that was challenged by the                     
court, would the court be precluded from setting up a master                   
to refine the recommendation before final judgement.  Mr.                      
Christensen could not answer the question.                                     
                                                                               
In response to a question by Representative Grussendorf, Mr.                   
Christensen stated that he is not aware of anything outside                    
the judicial branch that the court appoints.  He thought                       
that there were other states that involved their supreme                       
courts in the reapportionment process.  He observed that                       
judges are elected in many other states.                                       
                                                                               
HJR 44 was HELD in Committee for further consideration.                        

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